To heal the world, learn forgiveness - Marianne Williamson

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In every community, there is work to be done. In every nation, there are wounds to heal. In every heart, there is the power to do it. The practice of forgiveness is our most important contribution to the healing of the world.

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shara123 8 months ago
Hi this Keyhero typing test is so fun
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
No worries - go have a cup of coffee now and have a good day and enjoy your weekend
blaugershnauger 8 months, 1 week ago
True, I was harsh there. I redact my statement. I blame it on the coffee not being ready in time this morning.
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
You do your share of adding to the drama @blaugershnauger. By the way - I love your username - I feel my typing skills being honed every time I type it
blaugershnauger 8 months, 1 week ago
Fair enough. Tons of drama on this site lately.
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
There is nothing wrong with voicing an opinion on a quote - that is why there is a mechanism for leaving comments on quotes. I did not personally attack the author as others do in their comments (namely @stawtermelon). I merely pointed out the false assumptions being made in the quote and voiced my preference for intellectual or amusing quotes.
blaugershnauger 8 months, 1 week ago
Seeing as Weesin took the time this morning to comment and berate another grammatically correct quote this morning simply because it had a positive message, yes I think she has malicious in intent, or at least she is short-sided and self-serving.
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
Okay, given what you shared, we come to a point where we need to ask ourselves a question: "Do I think her intentions are malicious?" If the answer is yes, then no further consideration need be given. No one truly wins in that scenario and we leave it alone, malice is poison and we'd do well to steer clear. If the answer is no, then we start to clear the fog from and begin to gain footing on the possible common ground where we can all stand and focus on a solution. If this is the case, then I'd say the principle on which her actions are based is "fairness." I think, like you mentioned, we are all in favor of fairness and rules being followed. We're just going about striving for fairness in different ways and maybe there, on that point, a patch of grass of that common ground reveals itself.
stawtermelon 8 months, 1 week ago
You are indeed correct. I am upset with her actions. Namely policing the website by breaking the rules with self assumed authority, and vehemently denying that such actions are hypocritical. It is not completely out of the question to assume that a lesser infraction is more than plausible.
It is difficult to respect or trust a person who breaks the rules in such a matter.
I am totally fine with her calling out errors in quotes, and wrongly submitted quotes, and in fact appreciate the effort.
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
My intention was to point out the logical fallacy present in your argument. We cannot assume that person A did act B solely because they did acts A,C,D,E, nor Z. The logic, the academic argumentative structure, is not there. To do so would be a foolish act (dictionary: lacking good judgement). I had to use extreme examples to portray satire. I add that I disagree with weesin on some principles (known or unknown what those principles are, by being unique individuals we can know that we share many things and disagree on others with every person) but in no way would I judge her entirely. Again, I believe you are angry (or whichever emotion you are experiencing) at her actions. In contrast to this space, meeting her under certain circumstances, you could possibly get a long very well.
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
You're absolutely correct @brandencan. I shouldnt have responded to name-calling with more of the same. I appreciate your pointing it out - I think most people can benefit from a reminder to be respectful even when under attack
stawtermelon 8 months, 1 week ago
Are you equating down-voting a quote to animal extinction, abortion, and mass poverty?
I have judged Weesin on her pettiness on this site, and have assigned judgement on behaviors on this site exclusively. I have not called names, and I have not called her life outside of this site into question.
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
@strawtermelon So, if someone has done bad things, then they must be a contributor to every other bad thing to come! Genius! I'm glad people like you and I have never done a bad thing or we would be responsible for thousands of babies dying in abortions and animals suffering everywhere for the consumption of humans, not to mention all the poverty that continues both in the US and abroad. It's only logical that weesin has contributed to all of that as well.
stawtermelon 8 months, 1 week ago
Sure. Accuse me if you like. I know I didn't, so why on Earth would I get upset?
Again, you can dismiss me if you like. It is your prerogative to do so, just as it is my prerogative to cast stones how I like. There is nothing to debate here anyhow. I have formed an opinion on you based on your actions, and I can't imagine anything you could say or do to change my mind.
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
I began typing my last comment before @weesin posted hers so I would also like to refer the comment of "moron" to be addressed by my second point (originally referenced to @strawtermelon) even if she is being analogous.
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
@everyone good, strongly worded arguments are a good thing, but I don't believe hostile language is healthy.
@strawtermelon accusing a person of being a certain way is not a good practice. I recognize that I'm not the smartest nor the wisest person in any case. That said, I would recommend accusing a person's actions of being a certain way. Condemning actions is perfectly acceptable, or at least much more acceptable than accusing a person and limiting them, as a person, to a frame with the inability to change.

Finally, I would remind everyone of the truthfulness of the quote we are commenting about. "The practice of forgiveness is our most important contribution to the healing of the world." Additionally, I would recommend another quote: "...every human being has the freedom to change at any instant." -Viktor Frankl
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
This is becoming ridiculous. I refuse to converse with someone who proudly makes accusations without proof. Should I accuse you of being the person who held up a convenience store in my neighborhood with a toy gun just because you seem to be moron enough to do such a thing? Have proof before you cast stones. I'm done with you and this conversation.
stawtermelon 8 months, 1 week ago
I gave you my reasons. You can be dismissive if you like. I am not questioning you about it. I am accusing you of it.
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
And my apologies for consistently failing to type your username correctly @bvw. No offense is intended
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
So you'll call me petty when you're the sort of person that will make crazy assumptions about people? You had no reason to assume that I had voted on this quote at all, let alone to assume that I had down-voted it. When you have proof that I down-vote a quote, feel free to question me on it
stawtermelon 8 months, 1 week ago
Because you are petty enough to break rules and post anti-religious quotes because others have posted religious quotes. You are petty enough to call users out for being a Trump supporter, and you mock the idea of conversing with them. You are petty enough to consistently comment negatively on quotes that are grammatically correct, but that you find stupid or disagree with.

To down-vote a quote behind closed doors where no one would truly know is well within your wheelhouse. I built my assumption on your actions.
bvw 8 months, 1 week ago
bee vee double vee
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
Thanks for piping in with your support of my position @brandencan. I'm not sure where @stawtermelon gets off assuming that I down-voted this quote (as far as I know - there isn't a way to see how individual users are voting on specific quotes). It's true that I am often offput by @bvm's religious quotes/comments, however, @bvm is a very nice human being and I don't understand why @stawtermelon would assume that I would dislike @bvm so much that I would be petty enough to down-vote his quotes.

And I'm female - referring to me as she/her is just fine, thanks very much for checking
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
I would also like to apologize if I misgendered you, weesin, I honestly don't know if you are a man or a woman nor do I know your pronouns.
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
I have to agree with weesin on the point he made here. Namely, there is no evidence (none that I can see, is there a way to check who has voted and how they have voted?) that he down-voted this quote, very much less so that he is SOLELY responsible for the overall rating of this quote. Assuming that someone did something without evidence is done in considerably poor taste.
weesin 8 months, 1 week ago
@stawtermelon: what the hell are you talking about? I have no issues with this quote. I haven't left any comments saying I have an issue with this quote. Don't put words in my mouth or make assumptions about me. I can speak for myself
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
I agree with both @bvw and @blaugershnauger (I'm glad that name isn't in any of the quotes I need to type!). In my first comment on this quote, I did not mean to pull toward one side of the political spectrum at all. I meant only that if quotes by political figures, like this one, are to be shared, then the content should be apolitical, like this one. @bvw said it well.
bvw 8 months, 1 week ago
These are not political quotes. They fall well within the typical emotive content of many top voted quotes on this site.
bvw 8 months, 1 week ago
The original author is Jewish.
blaugershnauger 8 months, 1 week ago
Political quotes should not be submitted in the first place.
Neither should religious or anti-religious quotes.

This is not a religious quote however, the original author is simply an activist for Christianity.
brandencan 8 months, 1 week ago
The same would have to go for the quotes from Trump and others from his side of the spectrum.
bvw 8 months, 1 week ago
stawtermelon: that might be. Stalking is not only bad manners, it is illegal on the Internet. According to Wikipedia "Cyberstalking is a criminal offense under American anti-stalking, slander, and harassment laws." Now this kind of possible behavior as may have happened here is, I think, unlikely to rise to the level of criminal or even civil penalties, but it certainly isn't kind. Let's be kind to one another.
stawtermelon 8 months, 1 week ago
Are these being downvoted simply because of the author of the quote?
Is it because they were submitted by bvw?
Weesin, could you please rate according to the quality of the quote and not your opinion of the author or other members on this site?
Because that would be abusing the rating system.

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