Admin: how to keep robots off?

By cheatbot - updated: 4 months, 1 week ago - 18 messages

1 - Put a captcha at the sign in procedure, avoiding also spammers.
2 - Do not show all the text for the typing test at once. Show first 50 characters and push them ahead on incoming input.
3 - Make a minimal statistical filtering to avoid input too much constant: human beings can not reach a so much constant speed on typing. Input speed could be measured by the time between touchs. Maybe stenotypers could be also filtered apart by this technique.

These are my remarks from what I learned making my cheat-scripts here.
Maybe the admin does not have the time to deal with such changes, we understand, this is just an exercise to discuss what may be done to perfect the site, thanks!

Please add more suggestions, technical people in the forum...
By seinfeld - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Great points, sir!
By endvisible - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

A great example of white-hat hacking! Hats off to you, sir!
By user263053 - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Who are the robots and how does their presence affect me?

If it is people using automated systems to type very quickly and rise to the leaderboard, then: does it really matter? Does it really matter whether you're 5467 on the leaderboard or 2346? I've always seen this place as a tool to improve my typing speed, I'm competing with myself. Do other people see it as a game whose leaderboard they must conquer?

> 2. Show first 50 characters and push them ahead on incoming input.

If they do this, I'll flat out just leave this website.

I consider it a very unnatural way of transcribing, which is essentially what we're doing here. We're seeing a full written text, and we're copying it.

I like it because you can sort of glance at it and see what's ahead. You can see if you'll have difficult punctuation signs, or capital letters or numbers. You can sort of read it in your mind and type it from there. With other websites, this is not possible. You don't know what's ahead, you cannot read the text, it breaks it up and it's not possible for me to achieve a flow this way.

In here I normally reach 80s-100 speeds. Whereas in websites where they break up the text, I can hardly pass 60.
By cheatbot - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

>> 2. Show first 50 characters and push them ahead on incoming input.
> I consider it a very unnatural way of transcribing, which is essentially what we're doing here. We're seeing a full written text, and we're copying it.

Open your mind, the 50 characters ahead would be like a dictation exercise, not knowing so early what's going to come.

Anyway, the quotes practice is still there, so you can practice without registering your scores in the leaderboard. The changes required by the site's admin would be to register it privately, so that you could see your progress, but not using it for the ranking game.

There are people who come just for that game. There could be a place for almost everybody here, surely not for the cheaters and spammers.

4 - Other simple suggestion would be to put a time limit in the ranking table, resetting it every month, for example.
By shitnigger - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Like the one user said, I'm not sure if the cheatbots matter at all. I suppose you could find the incessant cascade of gelbuts on the leaderboards to be annoying, but I use this website for personal practice, and also to keep track of my progress, for both of which this website continues to be useful. I would have to agree with the user that if these changes were to take place, I'd probably stop using this site entirely.

I also want to say, at the risk of sounding rude, that you (and all the other people running bots) are merely adding the problem at hand. While it's cool that you're able to engineer a solution, gelbut really wasn't all that active before other bot accounts started cropping up. I would venture to say that the only reliable fix to the problem is to just let all the people running bots, including yourself, get bored and leave the site.
Updated 4 months, 2 weeks ago
By weesin - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

What kind of user name is that? It's very offensive
By cheatbot - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

For the @sheet-eater: same as you, I may have others accounts, where I may pose as a normal user, or a troll one. I like the site also for fair use, just to practice, to meditate with some interesting quotes while typing, to have some amuzement, social research, etc. So, it's very unlike that I will get bored...

What most annoyes me is people that comes and says nonsense (not your comment in this case, but your nick yes), and put some high scores to "prove" that they are experts... What I have shown here is that one's score in this site proves absolutely nothing about one's human typing skills.
By jpittman - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Truthfully this is not an example of white hat hacking because if it was, there would be a response from the site owner ahead of this kind of thread. that is, the site owner would be working directly with the person(s) doing the hacking. I'd say this is black hat or gray hat hacking, even if the idea is to make the site more usable/secure, it is not being done with the permission of the site owner.

https://us.norton...
By cheatbot00 - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

The admins seem not to care about it. See this:
https://www.keyhe...

And also, we are discussing here, with the help of others from the community, and not being paying for it, how the annoyance could just be fixed.
By chaoticwolf - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Good idea! This should work
By gelbut144 - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

@she-teen-eager: IKR?! Some black-hat dared to challenge me, Alex G. What was I supposed to do, guys? Stand still? I accepted his challenge and put him in his place.

I still encourage this dude to land one of his profiles on the front page (1-50). That would be awesome actually! He's been trying really hard lately. I worry about him, and I'm NOT trying to troll.

I'm glad that I inspire certain people. This makes me feel alive :L)
By gelbut144 - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Web analysis of keyhero: https://keyhero.c...
By shitnigger - posted: 4 months, 2 weeks ago

Cool website, gelbut! Thanks! Also, I had no idea the people (person?) running this website were raking in the moneybags like that. Neat.
By cheatbot - posted: 4 months, 1 week ago

It's a business!
The info is not updated, see again now... And also, it could be over estimated.
Another resource for comparison is clearwebstats.com
By cheatbot - posted: 4 months, 1 week ago

Ranking 6 sites by income/day 2019-06-02

$ 2 126,00 10fastfingers.com
$ 1 664,00 typeracer.com
$ 1 477,00 typingtest.com
$ 1 285,00 nitrotype.com
$ 683,00 keyhero.com
$ 178,00 onlinetyping.org
By cheatbot - posted: 4 months, 1 week ago

Keyhero could be better...
By root - posted: 4 months, 1 week ago

Site admin here...First, thanks for bringing this issue up. I've been aware of cheating for a while now but haven't acted on it because I think the main value offered by KeyHero is for people to improve their own WPM and creating bots does not affect that. Some others alluded to that in the comments and I couldn't agree more. Of course, the leaderboard exists for a reason, and it's not to showcase bot creation, so enough is enough and I will begin taking action. Thanks again...
P.S. I wish the revenue for this site was somewhere near what was posted in this thread. I could justify spending a lot more of my time on it.
By seinfeld - posted: 4 months, 1 week ago

So ironic that the admin of this site should choose to take anti-botting recommendations from someone called <cheatbot>. cheatbot must be the greatest bucetinha that has ever existed in the cyberspace )))) this Brazilian dude is terribly insecure. It's best to just ignore this guy altogether.