Random Self-Promo

By endvisible - updated: 4 years, 11 months ago - 25 messages

Hello people of KeyHero, this is probably only going to happen once.

I'm a musician, and I'd like to hear your opinions of the stuff I make. I make a mix of experimental, avant-garde, and progressive electronic music, and I've got two albums along with several singles available everywhere.

I'll leave a link here, but you could literally just Google my username and I'd come up (look for the bird mask).

My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube…

You can just let me know what you think here, but you consider subscribing or sharing, I'll be your best friend.
Cheers!
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

I think good songs to start with are....

"Superexistential," "Absolutely Anything (and Pt. II)," "Massive," and "Look... We're Okay Right?"
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Hi @endvisible. I listened to your music and would love to say that I enjoyed it, however, it wasn't my thing. But that's likely because I'm a die hard bluegrass, jazz and folk fan. I'm not generally a fan of there being any electronic elements of any kind in music. I did, however, play some of it for my teenager and was told it was 'cool' and that I was too 'lame' to appreciate it
By twofingertyper - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Your teenager is right about exactly one of those two things. I'll leave you to guess which.
By boi - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Hi @endvisible!
Although your songs are definitely not what I usually listen to, they're still good songs. Personally, "Superexistential" was my favorite. But, you did say to give opinions, so that's exactly what I'm about to do.
I think the only really large downside I could find (besides the fact that they're not entirely my style) is that your songs are a little bit repetitive. I like songs that can vary a lot, and really develop as the song goes by. I also really think (and this is just my advice) that you should try experimenting and using some different, interesting sound effects, like rain or wind for example (maybe you have, I only listened to a couple songs). Otherwise, your songs are pretty good, and I think it's awesome that you're a musician. Keep it up!
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

And here's @twofingertyper piping in for no other reason than to be an annoying, rude troll. Can you not see that this forum was created so that @endvisible can get some feedback about his music? Why must you sully this with your venom? Take your hate elsewhere please
By twofingertyper - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

You're the one who decided to share, not me.
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

And you're the one who has decided to live their life as an asshole, not me
By twofingertyper - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Even your kid thinks you're lame. Not sure why you decided to share that information, but it was obvious anyway. At least I'm not insufferably self-aggrandizing.
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Duh. All teenagers think their mothers are lame. Anything different would be out of the ordinary
By boi - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

I've seen plenty of teenagers who don't think their mother is lame, including myself. Besides, you don't have to point that out that you're one of those families.
If you're having arguments like these, though, seriously- why are you doing it here?
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

I thought my mother was lame, but that's because she was an abusive drug addict. Can we just not aggravate each other for five minutes?

@twofingertyper and @weesin — You don't have to admit to anything; please just be the bigger person and apologize (both of you, whether or not you started it, this is a time to show character).
Updated 4 years, 11 months ago
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Hey there! Thanks for your opinion and criticism! I completely understand that it isn't your style of music, so I appreciate your listening even more! I think if you like progression, you'd like my newer stuff more (currently though, it hasn't been released), as I've taken to using a multitude of instruments (such as flute, padsynths, and real drums).

Back when I made those songs, my technological capabilities were rather limited, but now I have room to expand and use more patterns and instruments, so now it's just down to finding inspiration!

Thanks again for your feedback and your time!
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

As a non-electronic listener (believe it or not!) I completely understand your interests, so there's no worries there. Thanks for listening! I also listen to a lot of folk (albeit fusions of folk and rock), and it's some pretty great stuff.
I think I'd put Neutral Milk Hotel and The Decemberists as my favorite folk-fusion bands.

Again, thanks for listening!
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

I absolutely love Neutral Milk Hotel. The Decemberists are pretty good too. I recently got turned onto a group called Fleet Foxes and they're awesome. Because you like Neutral Milk Hotel, I would also recommend checking out a band called Beirut - which is my favorite. I've pasted a link to my favorite song of theirs if you want to check it out. If you happen to like these suggestions, let me know - I can send you a bunch more
https://www.youtube…
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

That's awesome! I'll check them all out; I practically memorized every Jeff Mangum song in existence, and I was learning a few of The Decemberists' earlier works — specifically 'Shiny,' 'The Crane Wife,' and 'Here I Dreamt I Was an Architect.'

I'm going to check those out today while I work, thanks!
By bitbat - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Ok, will look into it
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Cool. I'm curious to hear if you like my suggestions (especially Beirut). I envy your musical talents; I'd love to be able to play my favourite songs. I can't even whistle
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

I taught myself to whistle by blowing on hot food if it helps! You're never too late to learn :)
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

I wonder if the ability to whistle might not be a matter of know-how, but rather a matter of physiology. I've been shown by countless people over the years and still can't seem to whistle. It's quite frustrating. Like I don't have a crazy funny shaped mouth or lips, so why is this so impossible for me? But I will definitely work on it whilst blowing on hot food; if it worked for you, maybe it will work for me (fingers crossed)
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, there are some people who just can't do it, but it's a rare occurrence. There are very tiny muscles in your lips that move back and forth when you purse your lips (imagine holding a straw there), and you can raise the back of your tongue to bend the airflow until your teeth and lips cause the air to vibrate. Another thing I recommend is learning the shapes of your vowels in muscles memory, as that'll help change your pitch.
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

Thanks for the detailed advice @endvisible. What do you mean by "vowels in muscles memory" though? Can you epxlain?
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

I learned through listening to traditional Mongolian music (I know, total nerd) that the shape of your mouth controls the way sound resonates in your mouth. This is the backbone of Tuvan throat singing (I recommend checking out the song "Yrlaazhyyly' by the Alash Ensemble on their album Buura), in which they use the false vocal chords to sing in either an octave up to three times lower than normally possible or in an almost ethereal whistling tone.

By shaping the mouth to say "eee," but without actually voicing it, and blowing out, you'll hear a high pitched rush of air. You can bend this to a lower pitch by curling your tongue and bringing it back, similar to how we shape the "ooo" sound. Other important vowels used in resonant vocals and whistling are (more in throat singing than whistling) the "ah" sound (kind of the middle pitch), the "uh" sound, and the schwa sound.

The more you move your tongue backward, the more room there will be in the oral cavity and the lower the air's pitch will become, and it's the opposite with moving your tongue forward. By using this fundamental stuff, you can not only teach yourself to whistle, but begin teaching yourself to throat sing as well. Just memorizing the way you shape the vowels to say them, you'll have a head start in learning; just remember that your teeth and tongue are extremely important as well, as you have to get all of these parts working in unison!

I'm kinda passionate about weird music and different techniques of doing things, hopefully that all made sense!
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

That's hilarious - I guess I'm a nerd too - I'm actually familiar with the Alash Ensemble. I listen to them quite frequently - much to the dismay of my children (they can't stand it). Thanks SO much for taking the time to provide such detailed information/instructions. I really appreciate it. I am going to go home tonight and work on this. I'll let you know if I make any progress. Thanks again and have a great day!
By endvisible - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

No problem, and that's an awesome coincidence! Wish you luck!
By weesin - posted: 4 years, 11 months ago

oh yeah - did you give those suggestions I gave you a listen yet? Just wondering what you thought...