The first expression - Greg Graffin

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Science is the first expression of punk, because it doesn't advance without challenging authority. It doesn't make progress without tearing down what was there before and building upon the structure.

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bvw 5 months, 1 week ago
Appreciate the context, jjp. I'll stick by my comment. Unlike art, pop music needs fair size audiences. It's hard to fully break music down. Rap tried, "It's like a jungle sometimes." Punker than punk. But it is still music, and has some beauty. Art, the crap that's falling apart today or "conceptual" deconstructionist art? Nasty stuff, only exceeded by Soviet era kid's playground "folk" art. Science, music, art, anything: Bricolage (Claude Levi-Struass). So is anything. "Creative deconstruction", Schumpeter. Solomon: “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”
jjp 5 months, 1 week ago
Well Mr. Van Wagner, the person who uttered this quote, Dr. Greg Graffin, happens to hold a PHD in the History of Science from Cornell University. In addition to that minor distinction, he's also one of the founding members of a rather well known punk rock band, "Bad Religion". I'll give his opinion on the subjects the deference due.
bvw 5 months, 1 week ago
That's not sciene. In science you build on existing knowledge, not destroy it. It's not even PUNK. Punk is creative, reactionary. This quote is silly.
user809700 1 year, 10 months ago
you just ignored the unsung heroes of science; shift in scientific paradigm is not the whole picture of science.

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